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The Whole Marketer Podcast – Episode 165

Jun 9, 2026

The Truth About Senior Marketing Roles Right Now – Job Market, CMO Tenure and How to Thrive

Episode 165 with guest Joel Barnett, Founder of Fortune Hill 

 

The second in our mini-series on how marketing roles are changing, in this episode we highlight what the job market looks like right now, including: why so many senior roles are disappearing or being restructured, what companies are looking for in marketing leaders today, the importance of role clarity and expectations, and job search advice. 

 

Joining Abby is her guest Joel Barnett, Founder and CEO of Fortune Hill, who partners with ambitious organisations to appoint Marketing, Commercial, and HR leaders to supercharge business performance and enhance culture. With decades of experience placing marketing executives across some of the UK’s most recognised brands, Joel shares his honest yet optimistic assessment of where the marketing profession currently stands – and what both leaders and organisations need to do differently. 

Key takeaways 

  • The CMO title is disappearing… More recruitment briefs are coming through as Chief Growth Officer or Chief Customer Officer, as the CMO role itself is being disaggregated 
  • Why are CMO tenures getting shorter… Joel reflects that marketing leaders share some of the responsibility, through poorly managed expectations, a reluctance to have difficult conversations, and in some cases, overstating what they can and will deliver 
  • The brief is broken… 75% of unsuccessful hires come down to a poorly constructed brief. Companies are hiring to solve a short-term problem, prioritising sector experience over the character traits that determine long-term success. 
  • Tips for leaders… Hire first for character, then capability and finally experience – too often organisations hire the CV but fire what isn’t CV-related. 
  • Taking the reins of your job search… The job market is tough and there is a significant supply and demand imbalance right now. Joel’s advice: treat your job search like a marketing campaign, be the driver not the passenger, and don’t take a role just for the title. 

 

Resources 

The Whole Marketer ‘Define your ideal role’ resource – free download 

https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/ 

 

The Whole Marketer ‘Take the reins of your career’ resource – free download 

https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/ 

 

The Whole Marketer ‘Develop your authentic leadership style’ resource – free download 

https://thewholemarketer.com/resources/ 

 

Are Marketers facing a clarity crisis? – Marketing Week article 

https://thewholemarketer.com/mw-article-clarity/ 

00:00 — Welcome to the Whole Marketer Podcast 

02:33 — Introducing Joel Barnett 

03:00 — What Marketing Leadership Is Really For 

05:12 — The CMO Title Is Disappearing — What’s Replacing It 

08:00 — The Disaggregation of the Marketing Role 

12:28 — Marketing is Being Stretched and Squeezed Simultaneously 

14:53 — The Most Important Trait in a Modern Marketing Leader 

16:57 — The Leadership Piece People Overlook 

19:23 — The Conversations Marketing Leaders Aren’t Having 

21:37 — Why CMO Tenure Is Shorter Than It Should Be 

26:26 — The Cost of Tolerating Average 

31:18 — Resilience, Coaching, and Not Going It Alone 

33:38 — Why Senior Marketing Roles Are Being Cut 

38:03 — The State of the Job Market Right Now 

41:00 — How to Search for a Role Like a Marketer 

45:28 — On Being Selective — and Knowing It’s Never Too Late to Pivot 

47:53 — How to Make a Better Senior Marketing Hire 

50:19 — Hire for Character Before Credentials 

53:00 — Joel’s Advice: Learn the Language of the Room 

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